I still have these basic 4 knee levers on my current Super~Pro, plus 6 other custom changes on the additional knee levers I added over the years. The price isn't bad either. Copedent … Half-stops can be used on pedals, but we do not recommend it because it is harder to feel the stop with your feet and it makes the action stiffer. Paul was mentored by legends like Buddy Emmons, Lloyd Green, Pete Drake, Weldon Myrick, Hal Rugg, John Hughey, all fellow Hall of Famers. Ricky Hagan with his very early Emmons bolt on. The C6 has a wider pitch range than the E9, mostly on the lower notes. is engaged, such as used by Buddy Emmons in the solo to “Night Life” he recorded in 1962 with Ray Price. These typically control one (1) string only and are used with 1 knee lever at a time. The G# to G pedal is Pedal 1 because it can be used with (or without the B to C# pedal. However, and because I utilized the E9thtuning throughout this paper, the intro will be provided using that copedent for the intro. The reason the copedent exists for steel guitar and not other instruments is that, unlike other instruments, there is no standard tuning for the steel guitar. FAQ A particular tuning and pedal function setup is sometimes represented by a graphic table called a “copedent” (pronounced co-pee-dent).Coined by pedal steel guru Tom Bradshaw in the early 1970s, the term is short for “chord pedal arrangement.” The C6 tuning is different than the E9 in many ways, but perhaps the most important - in my mind - is that I do not see it as a "lick" instrument to the degree that the E9 is. 4) Pedal & lever changes are based on the E9 pedal steel tuning using a fairly standard Emmons style copedent (see title page for copedent). The guitar is in very good condition and sounds even better than it looks. On my SD-12 Ext E9 PP, I have G# on 11 & E on 12, the 1-10 are standard E9th. The original hard shell case is in good shape but it does have tape on the outside edges to protect the Tolex from scraping off. Your guitar will play like a dream when we're finished with it! The standard "Emmons set up" is the name companies have for the pedal set up that guitars are all shipped with if no other set-up is specified. al. This has very little to do with Buddy's present "set-up" as most companies hardly know what it is anyway and may be changable from month to month. Why don't I and many older steel players play a standard set-up? great, even tho it is not cosmetically perfect... great guitar for someone looking to dive . The price isn't bad either. Profile More and more steel players are adding these two changes on RKL as they do away with pulling the first string a half a tone. Emmons setup; BL705 on E9 neck; ... copedent around or add knee levers or pedals to it... guitar was upgraded with aluminum . It shows the chords with the A, B, & C pedal positions as well as with knee levers. String 6 was a .22 wound string and would not drop down a whole tone without changing it to a plain string (when I added a knee lever to do that in 1975). OPEN D SLIDE RULE CHART - 6 … Nashville 400 amp. Regardless of what some players have, the above IS standard. Because there was no standard when we were learning, no tab, no videos, no teachers etc. If you are a new player, don't start learning on some non-standard tuning, no reason to and it will hurt you badly when trying to learn from teaching materials like tab and videos,and when playing other steel players guitars,or having them play yours and it will hurt the value of your guitar at trade in time. Needless to say, I like it and recommend it. Thanks. It's worth it's weight in Gold. It shows the Standard Emmons copedent for E9 setup. There was one steel player, Steve Smith, who's 1st and 3rd pedals were reversed, as were some of his knee levers (to make sense with the reversed pedals). Subject to change without notice, of course! I have Jim Eaton's exact set-up. What I'd do is make an "Extended E9/B6 Universal". Iam still going to experiment. Mechanically this guitar is perfect. 10 Apr 2002 Re: JEFF NEWMAN'S EMMONS 65 SELECTION ON PROFEX -2 Buddy 11 Apr 2002 Noted steeler, Chuck Lettes, deserves the cre… The first chart represents the front E9 tuning neck, … The copedent is the steel guitarist's way of saying "this is how I tune my instrument." It's a diagram showing where the pedals and levers are and what action they take on the strings. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46, Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000 The C6 neck sounds HEAVENLY. Tone Bar, Brass, 7/8" x 3 1/2", Lap Pedal Steel Guitar. Judging from the majority of customers that I have sold to over the past 10 years, over 95% of them use a "standard set up", sometimes refered to as a standard Emmons set up. To begin, it is fun to duplicate a rendition of Buddy Emmons’ intro to Willie Nelson’s composition, “Night Life.” Buddy’s has become a classic and contains some dramatic chords. Many players today have E9 th copedents that are “personalized” to suit their particular musical needs and preferences. 10 apr 2002 AL. It is set up in the standard Emmons E9 Copedent w/ the E's on the left. ], ------------------My best,Ernie The Official Buddy Emmons Websitewww.buddyemmons.com, ------------------Bobby Lee - email: quasar@b0b.com - gigs - CDs, Open HeartsSierra Session 12 (E9), Williams 400X (Emaj9, D6), Sierra Olympic 12 (C6add9),Sierra Laptop 8 (D13), Fender Stringmaster (E13, A6),Roland Handsonic, Line 6 Variax. Any player’s copedent can be more expansive and/or complex if additional floor pedals and knee levers are added–as in the examples in the Illustration listed … Ricky Hagan's push pull stable. Again, this pedal is used by itself, and becomes more useful when combined with other pedals or knee levers. A standard E9 single-neck pedal steel guitar's copedent is charted below. Certain players prefer different setups regarding which function the pedals and levers perform, and which string tuning is preferred. A great teaching reference source for learning the Pedal Steel Guitar. About all that was available was Buddy Emmons when he'd come through town. Keep Steelin' but don't get caught[This message was edited by Wiz Feinberg on 02 July 2003 at 10:02 AM. Our base model guitar uses the exact same parts, and has all of the features of our Legend, and Legend XL model guitars. Anything beyond that is a crapshoot, in my observation. That mostly goes to blues gigs too. Any copedant suggestions? On my 10 string psg- Emmons copedent E9 and C6, 7 pedals, 5 knees. What it would take is this........ You all have been very heplful. As Emmons and Day proved, the functions of the pedals and levers are often highly personalized. Rex Wiseman. This means $$$$$ unless you take the time to do it all yourself. On a 12 string you don't really need the 10th string lower because you have that note on the 11th string. Email SteelGuitarForum@gmail.com for technical support. Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000 Ending Friday at 3:35AM PST 20h 32m. Granted, Buddy played his using his C6th copedent, a tuning and string changes that permit more complex chords and a deeper penetration into the bass registry. Log in. That’s country gig where I can sit in the back, cool out and have a beer and relax. The particular copedent first listed below is commonly referred to as an "Emmons set-up." Classic country shuffle styles for Band-in-a-Box, by BIAB guru Jim Baron. He called his setup the Jimmy Day setup. I had basically 80% of it but decided to use Mr Eaton's setup (plus a change or 2 of my own and it sounds good and flows pretty good)since it was closer to where I was headed. In addition to restorations, we do set-ups, copedent changes and knee lever additions. IF they ship the guitar with 5 knee levers, LKV will lower 5 and 10 a half a tone. Light cosmetic wear here and there. Thanks again an keep the suggestions coming, Strings, CDs, instruction, and steel guitar accessories, His Es are LKR and LKL, LKL raises all 3, LKR, lowers only 4,8...RKL pulls 1, 2, and lowers 6, and 11. phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group, Wanting to setup another extended e9th with 5 pedal 5 knee levers. A,B,C pedals are pretty standardE to D# and E to F are pretty standardthird lever lowers 2nd string 1/2 step and SOMETIMES a whole step and SOMETIMES has the 9th string lower as well. However this is fast changing. This is exactly what he uses, like many other great players do. The Steel Guitar Forum A great teaching reference source for learning the Pedal Steel Guitar. The following charts show the open pitches and pedal/knee lever raises and lowers of every string on the two 10 string necks of my pedal steel guitar (currently, a 1983 Emmons "Push Pull", with 8 pedals and 9 knee levers. THE MSA PEDAL STEEL GUITARS. "Standard" is just a great starting spot and probably won't be the final tuning in your life, but listen to great players like Herby Wallace and you'll realize that this is a wonderful "standard". A standard E9 single-neck pedal steel guitar's copedent is charted below. Lots of people have added a 4th pedal to the E9th, lowering strings 5, 6 and 10 a full step. Also, every guitar you ever get will need to be changed to "your" set-up. And Bobby is correct, MOST steels being shipped (according to my telephone survey of manufacturers) are a "standard"; As follows: RKL raises 1 a half a tone and lowers 6 a whole tone. ------------------Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page2003 Fessenden S/D-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S-12 6x6, 1971 Dobro, Standel and Peavey Amps, Every guitar that I sell on the floor, new or used, unless otherwise specified, will be shipped with a "standard set up". In fact, if you tune everything 3 tones lower you'd have the A6th note-for-note. It's worth it's weight in Gold. (3 pedals and 4 knees on the E9th neck). Mike Johnson with his Steel Guitar East completely restored Emmons Legrande II. Pedal steel players who play country music most often use an E9th tuning. ------------------Bob "Wiz" FeinbergAIM Screenname: WizcraftsSho~Bud Super~Pro with 10 and 10, L710s and aluminum fingers from Bobbe Seymour. $29.99. Turn on the unit then press the TMPR/SWT button. pedal bar, raised aluminum neck, and blue mica... it is a student guitar that sounds and plays. The particular copedent first listed below is commonly referred to as an "Emmons set-up." It has 6 pedals, 6 knee levers, and a relatively standard E9/B6 universal setup that I've been using for about 25 years. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46, Our mailing address is: RKR lowers 2 a half a tone with half stop; and lowers 9 a half a tone. jeff newman's emmons 65 selection on profex -2 sammy brock ,montg. 148 South Cloverdale Blvd. $5.23 shipping. your profile | join | preferences | help | search, [This message was edited by Lem Smith on 29 June 2003 at 10:39 PM. Great playing guitar with enough levers to keep you busy for a lifetime. These are the tunings and pedal setups I am using right now. Since you have 12 strings, have you thought about having a Universal tuning? 8 pedals and 5 knees. The e9 neck sounds like an Emmons legrande II. Half-stops are normally found on the 2nd string on the E9 neck: D# to D to C# (-1/2, -1). Cloverdale, CA 95425 USA, Strings & instruction for lap steel, Hawaiian & pedal steel guitars. Simplicity of the Standard Pedal Steel C6th Copedent Buddy Emmons uses a high D; Jimmy Day used a high G. The G note gives a western swing sound (C-E-G providing a higher major chord), exactly as Herb Remington's A6. He scared most of us to death. Following with his raising of the 2nd string a half a tone will make this knee lever what b0b said, in the future. The table below shows the copedent (ChOrd/PEDal arrangemENT -- thanks to Tom Bradshaw for something to call it) for the Beast. I predict that the PF changes on strings 1 and 2 WILL be standard in the not too distant future. It shows the chords with the A, B, & C pedal positions as well as with knee levers. Here is what I use on my MSA Legend SD-12 5x5 Ext E9. Pedal 5 is nice to use with the E to Eb lever to give another way to play a V7 chord (Ex: G7 in the key of C). Join "It's incredible!" Powered by Carter single 12 string (extended E9 tuning) Sierra single 12 string (extended C6 tuning) His guitar dominated the charts during the Country boom of the '90=80's and '90's, he toured the world with Dire Straits and continues to be the first-call pedal steel player in the Nashville studio scene. Now, again, b0b made a great point, the pedals are A B C, the three basic knees and placment is critical, the forth knee (RKL) is one that is a "wild card", The one you can do what you want to with, Raise 1 and 7 a whole tone is fine, The "Z" lever is for playing some big stuff easily, some folks raise one and lower six, not my favorite as it's just another major chord, but anyway, this is the way steel has evolved, not too badly either! ], [This message was edited by Wiz Feinberg on 02 July 2003 at 10:02 AM. (see photos) Please notice the cosmetic repair under the headstocks. I am just a "mere P-on" in the company of genius'. Then use the up/down arrows on the large button to select the SE9 (442.5) or the OE9 (440) Then press the save button on the lower right. Private Messages Emmons LeGrande III Black 8 x 7 - with single coil pickups. Meaning that MOST players have it. Again, RKL is fast changing as I stated in my previous post. ], Note: Messages not explicitly copyrighted are in the Public Domain. Search When Paul Franklin started pulling the 1st string a whole tone it began a new trend. Setting the unit to power up with the E9 program active. JCH (10 string-12 string) Black 9 x 10 Emmons LeGrande III Mahogany 8 x 7 - with humbucking pickups. Even though my own knee levers are not in the correct "standard" order, I always play a standard set up on all of my teaching videos, so it does not confuse the student. Programming your own tempers Notice that his 3 main E9 pedals are in the middle. Pedal steel players who play country music most often use an E9th tuning. P1 raised B's to C#, P2 raised G#'s to A, P3 raised #4 and #5 a whole tone each, LKL raised the E's, RKL lowered the E's, LKR raised the F#s to Gand RKR lowered 2nd string a whole tone with a barrel adjuster half stop. On my 12 string psg, E7/9 gospel tuning. 2 Pedal Steel Guitar: E9 … For the C6th neck press the TMPR/SWT button again and select the SC6 setting. It shows the Standard Emmons copedent for E9 setup.