The overall design is small, compact and stealthy. The AirVape OM is a new keychain vape pen that’s designed for use with both wax and oil cartridges. the fogger style isnt bad just not as good. FYI guys I no longer recommend SOURCEvapes pens, I get too many complaints about their products and service. However, my “guy” is starting to make the move from dried to wax and I would like to be able to transition with him because lately his selection has been very limited as he is taking his best strains and making wax. BTW I plan on getting the brain fogger here pretty soon. Out of what I’ve tried I’d say something like the Omicron is best vape pen for oil and something like the Atmos or microG is best for solids, but there’s a hundred different brands on the market and they’re all basically the same thing. Are you familiar with Vivant or any of their products? The finish is stainless steel and it looks & feels superb. Another nice feature is the built-in ceramic dab tool called a “dart.” It rests inside the mouth piece making it easy to load the vape chamber. Good idea, I shall acquire on to use to add Cbd oil in. No airflow, leaks and clogs just after a few tries. I can put .2 grams of abv under a small layer of [concentrates] and top it all off with another .2 or so freshly ground and lightly dried [herbs], at night, and get several nice balloons, as many as 7 or 8, at various temps (still experimenting)…, Can you please review the dabbler by the vapor brothers? do not throw out the OEM mouthpiece filter you need it for concentrates in that “don’t cook bacon naked” kind of way. Thanks for the steer job. WHO DOES THAT?!?? For our full guide to best dab pens, visit our “Best … Anyway, my point is I suspect you run the risk of not only relinquishing your audience power (by assuming we know what #1 does different or what makes a 1.4 whatever jiggawatt thing suitable for beginning vapist’s -) but perhaps losing the opportunity to influence a larger principal that drives your desire to help inform people of a safer mode (on so many levels) of consumption. I have a shop opening soon and I was curious your opinion at the present time if have a moment. Plus it’s only 20 bux!! It is one of the best vape pens for THC oil and other types of oils alike. I am not a heavy user, but I like good things…. Yes I have the Omicron and it’s very nice. The chamber in this one is on the smaller side so I’d only recommend loading about a BB-sized amount of concentrate at a time, but it’s so efficient that you’ll get at least a handful of nice draws from that. I wanted to get your opinion on a good, smaller pen. Screws in same 510 thread, but nothing happens? California Proposition 65 - WARNING: This product can expose you to chemicals including nicotine, which is known to the State of California to cause birth defects or other reproductive harm. The standard Sai atomizer is stainless steel (what I have) and it’s also available in black, gold and titanium. There is some odor that is generated, but it smells a little different than usual and it isn’t very strong (with concentrates). I use yocan now, evolve plus xl or evolve plus arsenal tools edition, Yikes!!! 2nd is vapor production. It’s easily the best pen of 2016. I wouldn’t recommend Yocan to anyone. I’m not sure if you have a review for these guys yet or not but OMG…I personally think it’s the best wax and concentrates pen right now! It works best when you load small amounts of wax at a time, but it’s super efficient so you’ll be surprised how many draws you get. How do coils create vapor and not smoke (combustion) since the concentrate is making direct contact with the heat source? Yes, they will fit, but other things to know. Thanks for your attention to detail! You know that KandyPens offers a free replacement policy if you lose your pen right?? Please take a look at the new Yocan Evolve pen – quartz dual coil at approx $50. Especially when it’s 2am and you have a migraine and you can’t get it to work :( Hoping this provides consistent use. Some will make its way down to the coil at the bottom and some will stick to the ceramic sides. It’s very pocket-able and Linx includes a stainless cap for the mouthpiece to protect it and keep it clean when stored. Well, just about everything is made in china Show me one made in the USA I’ve got Evolve Plus and Magneto and both are awesome. You can use it while charging and it takes a standard micro usb like a galaxy s6 phone. I’m particularly curious about this Dr Dabber Ghost, which you seem to recommend highly. Thats why they da best imo. I got the source orb 4 and honestly its way too big, very unwieldy, and makes ma cough up a lung for a solid hour after. I been waiting to hear about your opinion on Puffco Plus. Overall I really like the performance of this one, the all-quartz bucket atomizer is my favorite way to vape wax in a pen to date. These reviews are great and all but you leave one of the most important things about vaping concentrates. I have been lookin at ceramic for this reason. In general, vape pens are really designed for light to medium use and shouldn’t be used excessively or as the sole method of consumption if you have a high tolerance. Hey what’s up, with the Atmos you basically place your material right inside the heating chamber. No, I’m not a crazy stalker or weirdo internet hag but I do follow up on a gut instinct. Any pens you recommend as the optimal dabbing rig alternative? Yes correct, both the Elite and the Gravity have sealed atomizers so you can use thin oils in them. Your voice has a genuine quality that translates very well – I trusted you right away and my expectations for your review were high. Called company and the owner was nice but was suggesting what I might try to fix it. Many here in Portland, Oregon extremely pleased quality throughout. Its nice when you unbox something and take a few hits but sucking on it all day long is a whole different story nobody ever talks about. This is the new Linx Blaze vaporizer with two different atomizers included, and both of them are top tier. The coils are also leak-proof so they can be used with thinner oils in addition to wax. I have had good luck with them. You can also consume it without an empty cartridge by using any of the following methods. It’s a video from last year but they mention VapeCritic around the 4:30 mark. Hello, Got my atmos RX just like yours in the video. Also, I don’t smoke bud so putting a layer of bud in is not an option. Small load and not exactly an intuitive technique I realise, but this might help those disillusioned with the combustion experience. Stay away from Puffco+ me and many others couldnt even get it working straight out of the box. They have several low-end models around $15. Need suggestions on a new vape. This makes it a nice option for those of us who vape all the time and like a stronger hit, but easily switches back to the mellow setting. The kit came with a ceramic chamber and a clear chamber. The Ghost doesn’t hit as hard, but is much more consistent and predictable, with insane battery life and superbly efficient use of material. Im been pretty interested in the AtmosRx pen. You purchase it from your friendly neighborhood dispensary or the old fashioned way.. (Phone a friend), I have the v2 series 7. Sai vaporizers are heavy duty, not for the baby dabber. which is why i ask you what is the best vaporizer pen for oil? i have a saionara and an xl, the nail atty on the xl is better. Super fast shipping too. Full vape kits are geared towards pricing and portability, providing you with the best options available, like the Jupiter Liquid 9 featuring magnet cartridge connection. Also consider the human rights atrocities that go one at certain plants, and their lack of regulating this matter, I would support another company. Thanks, Tell me what your main concerns are with a pen, or what you’re looking to get out of it. QDC are my favorite but for bigger hits try the Quad Coil. Because wicked coils are probably the worst coil type out there. Could anyone tell me why Source no longer sells a wicked coil for Source 3 ? The elite is a bit gaudy for my taste. I own the Source Orb 3 w Bubbler, Source Orb 4, Source Orb XL, and Source Nail. There are 4 heat levels and it also has a “sesh mode” which I like a lot, it allows you to simply tap the power button twice to have it automatically heat the coil for 8-10 seconds at a time. I’ve been following you for years and I love how real you are with all of your reviews!! Hey, I been a fan your review. I went through 2 coils on their magneto within 1 month. Way to hot, nasty tasting hits compared to higher qualit devices like puffco, kandypens, Dr dabber etc, I’ve been disappointed with everything that I bought so I have not tried your product I am reluctant I’ve heard use dual coils for concentrates but I don’t even know where to begin, Hey what the best vaporizer pen for smoking herb and not oil ? I’ve read many others’ comments with this same complaint. I know many people w the aurora as well and rave about it, and no one needed to replace a battery. Someone help me what do I do ? The Wax Maxer Concentrate pen uses a ceramic heater which gives the best flavor by far. Do a riview on the qloudup nexus pen Ive heard pretty good things about it and id love to see a review. I’m not too concerned about low heat. I just recently purchased the nexus pen by a company called Qloud Up. I looking for the best option to vape bubble hash. Hey Bud, Can you suggest the best option to vape hand rubbed hash… ? Contacted Yocan in China and they told me to contact the place I bought it from. The best vape pens and vaporizers take quality to the next level and make a name for themselves by standing out for their innovations in technology, an … Yes the Dr Dabber Ghost and Cloud V Classic are still currently my favorite wax pens. Cleaning and unclogging. I am not experienced when it comes to concentrates etc. Was wondering if you could point me in the right direction for something with great taste and vapor production. Can you let me know if this is still the best vape pen on the market in your opinon? I was hoping that u would shine some light on this pen. Go with Kandypens, source, or linx instead. I do really like the cool effect of being able to see the “smoke” forming, so I’d really like to stick with the R2 (if a glass chamber is available) or something similar. The only drawback is it leaves an odor. I’m also asking KP also but curious to hear end-user feedback and knowledge. Can I use this with a threaded oil cartridge from Santa Cruz ? Hey Carlos I haven’t tried to the Source Orb yet but one of the nice things about the Ghost pen is that it heats slower than others which helps the vapor be smooth, sometimes when the coil is quick to light up (like the double coils?) Can you please do a review of the OGFour2.0 or R-series 2.0 vape pen from ThisThingRips. orb XL definitely tastes better. Now that I have identified myself as what I think will make up a good portion of the target audience wanting to seek out and purchase a vaporizing vape, let me offer that I watched your comparative video three times back to back – You present as knowledgeable, your language is descriptive and clear, I like that you admitted this kind of vape is not your thing right from the start. It’s mainly for light use for one person, most small pens are, I would go with something like the HVT Sai for use by multiple people. The Dr. Dabber isn’t even a high grade titanium. I am trying to avoid crossing over to the dark side of concentrates. When working properly the gravity was amazing but seems I can’t get any new good coils for it and don’t want to risk it anymore as those risk add up at 20$ a pop. Four and a half months for my Plus. And I hear you about the heat. Whats ur stand on ceramic coiless chambers ? Do not do it. Any suggestion would be helpful. Thanks! I have the Dr. Dabber boost and the source orb 4 with the big battery and it gives bigger rips than the boost. When will the puff co plus review be posted? Check it out https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=12&v=880TLs3fjmg&feature=emb_title. I got a aura and gravity. It could be a pen or actual vape. I was about to place an order for the Dr. Dabber, but found the Orb in my last pre-purchase R&D and it has a double coil system that looks enticing, specially being at the same price point. Get the source orb 4. Hahah nice, glad you’re diggin it brotha! The Bug RX oil vape pen is a small pen that comes in both black and silver. By your measurement nearly every vaping device on this list if not all of them is junk since they were made it China, Evolve + pro lightersusa Ebay seller less than $25. That was “K-Box” damn auto correct….lol. The chambers are big and the coils are powerful, you can get a dab rig-strength rip from this with ease. . I would consider this to be one of the best vape pens for light to medium use. I store my gear in a foam lined plastic case so if it gets tossed around the things inside won’t break, but it is set down many different ways, and I don’t want any spills to happen inside the container. “These are currently my 2016 top picks for best vaporizer pens designed for use with wax and oil concentrates”. But I want to know what that freaky #1 vape does that the other vapes don’t do. Any cartridges 11mm in diameter or smaller will fit inside this unit. My $100 Aurora…..what a WASTE of $$. Check out my list of top picks for best portable vaporizer. Though bc im on a tight budget im curious would you reccomend any under $50(or maybe $75 n under?) If something goes wrong with your cartridge, most will replace it IF you havent used any other pen but the ones they sell. The Kandypens Special K Oil Tank fits perfectly on the Special K battery, but will work with any 510-compatible vape pen or battery. Hello Ab, thank you for all your great articles on cannabis. The Puffco Plus has a really nice all-ceramic chamber that heats the oil pretty evenly creating a nice smooth hit. and, you are not alone! Just keep practicing wasting your product". Recently bought a Firefly based in large part on your review and found it to be a fantastic vape for flower; very easy to clean, great taste. Do you have any suggestions? Help/suggestions are greatly appreciated :). Used your code and picked one up for myself, works absolutely flawlessly. I have had great success with their products and they’ve been around since the ’90s, I’m 21 and still can’t believe how I know about theese awesome vapes that they produce. Crapped out after just over a month. Just a nice tasting very efficient way to get me there. Don’t drop or misplace. “highly recommended”, Source Orb 4 is bullshit. Long winded response, it seems much more organized in my head. The best way to extract oil from a cartridge is the same method that was used to fill them. I plan on using it every few hours during the day so something that will live up to that robustness and one that doesn’t “burn” the oil. Is the same to be said for the Dr Dabber? This is the new Linx Blaze vaporizer with two different atomizers included, and both of them are top tier. I have a very nice vape pen with magnetic cap with a built in dabber that keeps anything from leaking and a magnetic cover/mouthpiece. sad. However, I’ve read numerous complaints about the V2 pen, ranging from the poor customer service to many issues with the product itself, not to mention the cost of purchasing & replacing the different cartridges. I have a 2.7 and the new V3 rebuilable. I’m inclined to use the clear chamber with the atmos, but it appears difficult to get the tears into the chamber cleanly. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Thanks! Money is not an issue. I would spend the money on something better. Best to load only close to time of use. Do vapes which take flower deliver the same effects as those with concentrate? OK I have a e.z Vale x, now the wax part inside the coil their is a peace of thred like materiel that smoks putting off a stinky smell. I just picked up the newest version of the hercules by w9. I am assuming highest setting?? No release date that I could find. But…concentrate pens…easy peasy, mostly because one hit’ll do ya! Thanks!! Tried the Atmos RX with ceramic honeycomb screens (placed bottom & top of load, no spring) and with stop-start technique (button press 3/4 secs x 2/3 times) with a medium draw, it doesn’t actually combust flowers. Thanks in advance! Received fully charged and the battery is still at full 3 days, too users later. I’ve been thru about every wax pen on the market and I keep going back to the Yocan..dumb name but solid no-frills device. Hey bud im new to vaping and i was looking to buy a wax pen but not sure which one, i want something reliable that wont stop working after just a couple months and with good battery life. Efficient! Although the higher numbers definetly change taste! Excellent reviews on these products. I only have a 3 coil atomizer, is that why? Consuming the material inside is just going to be a little less convenient when traveling depending on the method you use. This is actually a pretty heavy duty pen that feels extremely solid in your hand, and it can deliver nice light vapor or big heavy rips. My question, if you please…does anyone make a glass chamber that will fit the R2 or is it just time for me to move on to another of the brands you recommend, since this seems to be a pretty common problem with the R2? Hey so you mean wax and oil in the same atomizer at the same time, correct? The FireLuke 2 features an easy to use, slide-to-open top fill system. You CAN use the Galaxy battery all you need to do is get a different cartridge for your oil, they’re cheap and some oil even comes in pre-filled carts! Thank you bud! SSDI don’t pay enough unfortunately, Great reviews. I don’t mind spending a little more for quality and smooth vapor. I’ve also urged them to offer free replacement coils to anyone who is concerned and they’re receptive to this, I’ll post updates about it on the forum: https://forum.vapelife.com, Hi Bud, I’m fairly new to the #710 seen. It hasn’t arrived yet. Thanks so much for all the time you put into this. Anybody have experience with Batch brand cartridges? Once the mouthpiece is unscrewed you can dip the tip of the syringe into the broken weed cartridge. Buyer beware on PCKT. Hey thanks for your request, I’ll be posting that review soon! Hey does anyone know if these pens would work for shatter? Not to mention, atomizers burn out from turning the temperature too high on a battery. This is the Saionara atomizer from Humboldt Vape Tech (HVT), and I have it attached to a 75w Pico mod battery in my pictures. Can anyone help me out?? Might I suggest taking a trip up to DC to get your hands on cartridges? I am very new to all of this and very grateful to find someone who has a transcripts of their videos. But Ive seen in multiple places that it works with concentrates and others that say it only works with herbs. There are several ways to save a broken weed cartridge. Charging batteries. Hey Bud. If so, I’d rather just buy their replacement pieces and save $50. Is there any science about it? You are the only one commenting on the Divine Tribe aka Divine Crossing which is my personal fave. Excellent quality vapor and excellent strength is what you get with this one. Hi Bud….I would greatly appreciate your help. Im a little bit confused with the coil chamber and the ceramic chamber…which one is better? The ceramic plate atomizer is smaller than average but it’s super efficient with your concentrate, so a little bit goes a long way. thanks, I live my PAX 3. QDC are my favorite but for bigger hits try the Quad Coil. I`m in Mexico…..always. Read my full review if you want to know all the details about it and the other qualities I like. It’s not a cheap pen by any means, that’s stainless steel that you’re lookin at and a glass mouthpiece tip. But this is not so complete. This thing chugs like one of those kids with their e-juice vaporizers blowing steam like a locomotive. Cheers. Works every time. Two other excellent coils they have are the ceramic donut and the triple titanium w/ quartz rods. Out of the four heat levels the pen has three of them are pretty low, and they barely make any vapor, but the highest setting gives you those clouds and the flavor is amazing at any temperature. It a decent pen but it fail to mesure up to all the other on your list. I kept looking back in the video, assuming I rather than you had missed the explanation for what the actual function is that makes that the first vape the vape you would recommend over the others. This type of finish does not show smudges or fingerprints. For stronger, more comfortable vapor I recommend these home units: Volcano, Plenty, Silver Surfer, Extreme-Q, Da Buddha, and Hot Box. Just search Vapor Bros., peace and happy vaping ! and also for a question for all the viewers: could it be possible to use shatter/budder/keif in any of these? I’d be open to other suggestions as well! The Qloudup Nexus is GARBAGE. Or short the battery. A quality vape pen should be powerful, reliable, discreet, and stylish. I’m not looking for super hard hits as it’s just me after work. I have not but I’ll look into it thanx for askin! This is the new Crystal 2 vape pen from KandyPens, it’s made for use with all consistencies of wax and oil concentrates. I’ve been reading a lot about it, but there is no consensus on what the best option is. Please let me know…. I understand I may have to clean it more often which is fine. While doing my research, I came across your reviews and thought I’d give it a shot to comment and see if you’ve tried these pens or have any personal opinions for me. Actually, it depends on the oil type. It beats every pen I’ve ever used in all categories that count. I was wondering the same thing. Price:  $105 from official KandyPens store   (after using my promo code STAYUP30 for 30% OFF). What about for a softer hit? I just ordered the PCKT ONE using your code. I really enjoy the taste too…please advise…I forget the thread size…but the screw in oil cartridge…. I go thru about a gram and a half a day of concentrates, I buy every new device I come across cuz Im a dork. Well, I’m glad to have read this to say the least. I medicate via flower, but like the extra CBD while working from home. I use it with a 50w Artery Nugget and can’t find anything that compares. Hi I bought a atmos jr vaporizer. I definitely wouldn’t consider it odorless, but most people would agree it’s pretty easy to control. One of my kids (adult) uses a $9.99 x6 pen style battery with a micro skillet and it works great. I haven’t decided as I’m not confident it’s worth it. And the Kandypen Gravity is probably the best for flavor if you pack a minimal amount. If so, what do you think? It’s amazingly small but you don’t sacrifice battery life for that at all, it has a very long-lasting 660mAh battery inside that barely drains when not in use. I’m still not totally sure how I feel about it I’m getting mixed feedback from people. Flavor and efficiency with both of these coils is basically the best you can get from a pen this compact. The newer coils look nice. It should be easy to get all of your precious oil out safely from there. I’m wondering if you’ve had a chance to try the new APX wax only vaporizer kit. Totally open to out of state residents! Is that accurate? Hi, I have a lady friend that has been having problems from puffing joints in her apt in Montreal and she has asked me if she should spend $300 to buy a 4 ” can fan and can filter to keep from getting evicted, and since I have a top of the line 25 ton Rosin press and grow my own buds, I’m thinking of recommending to her that instead of investing $300 for air filtration in her apt, that she spend in the $100 range to buy a vape pen with a ceramic bowl, and I will supply her with Rosin instead of buds, she is a mild smoker, and my friends including Bubbleman/Marc Richardson have recommended the Puffco Plus due to it having a ceramic bowl, upon reading your reviews and seeing how you list the Kandy Pens Crystal with the quartz bucket as your No #1 pick, and didn’t use a Puffco Plus as a comparassin, please give me your opinion on which vape pen is best for her to use with Rosin. I will probably get the nexus, but just wanted to see if you have tried it. Those two are the ones I’m considering. Then I bought this Twist Battery from a company called Stanky Vapes. WHat material works best in it? I have been trying to find the very best dry herb vape pen, and reviews seem to be all over the place. Basically I think I’m done with kandy pens for now. They make various styles of atomizers but the main one that’s unique is the black ceramic kanthal coil (pictured). Thanks. Hey Bud I have to say,after trying lots of these pens in the first year of vaping,most are not that great. you must of been doing something off bc i’ve had my aurora for 2yrs and am on the original 3 atomizers. Wasted 2 grams in it, and got nothing out of it. My medical dispensary just got shatter and I am looking to maximize my medicine by having the most efficient use. It was a awful experience from flavor to vapor production across the board. YoCan is made and is from China, so logically customer service and manufacturing are going to be poor, as well as their lack of care when it comes to toxic product with glues and chemicals not alowed int the US bc of their known health issues makes me hesitant to get anything from them just to save a few bucks. Performance-wise it comes with two different atomizers – one has a ceramic-lined chamber with a ceramic plate heating element embedded into the bottom, and the other atomizer is ceramic-lined also but there’s dual-quartz rod coils inside of it instead. Have you had a chance to compare the Dr. Dabber Ghost against the Source Vape’s Orb v2? I can’t get beyond one hit. Hi Bud. Any recommendations on a replacement for the brilliant but ultimately disastrous grasshopper? Hey, whats your take on the qloud up nexus. Source uses top notch materials and displays their lab tests on the website. Then you can push the oil into an empty cartridge. Immediate customer service as well, had a couple questions, no more button on the bottom. Up to 6 weeks I’ve gotten. Can I use pre-filled oil cartridges with the evolve plus or evolve plus XL vape pen? Thank you in advance. Since I switched over to the Istick and micro skillet,my hits,flavor are great. I’m looking for a good vape pen that can be stored at various angles. Sent it back to be switched at 1st they said it was replaced and shipped backed and 2 weeks later still didn’t show up. I love it. I use the glass screen at the bottom of the heating chamber and a small metal screen at the top just to contain bits and catch some heat, and I find this works really well. Pretty frustrating. I’m looking for a vape true vaporizer that is discreet and possibly portable and affordable. can you get a filled cartroage to Mt.AIRY N>C. Then when you’re weary of it all…buy a Classic Volcano. Hi, I’m wondering if you have had a chance to try the G pen. It is pretty cheap and looks extremely convincing… but i rely on you before i make the purchases.. so far i got the ssv, volcano, and arizer bt not a big fan of fans nemore… tooo intense. They have all kinds of Odor proof cases to carry the PAX 3 in that are inexpensive. Sub ohm attachment preferred but not a deal breaker. Both atomizers produced very tiny clouds. » Linx Blaze *Newest Linx pen w/ Quartz & Ceramic bucket atomizers. Man what overpriced garbage, the heating rod broke twice in 2 months and the customer service is no help. Have you used the aromatic atomizer for the kandy pen’s black edition? Now you promote who pays. This one has a magnetic connection now for the two mouthpiece parts, inside of which is the atomizer. In 3 months. Read on to diagnose the exact cause, as these are the four most common culprits. Considering how many awards it’s won, and how many 5 star reviews it has on third party sites it seems like your the minority in this situation. You beat their first time customer order by 5%! Hey Bud, Im in limbo about buying “the Dabbler” or the “Dr. As always, thanks Vape Critic!! Thx. Flavor and efficiency are two of this pen’s strong points. Ive also caught wind of cloud v alien which is a pretty promising looking wax and oil vape as well as the molecule rda which is the 1st Wax/oil Rda ive seen thats rebuildable and has an all quartz chamber. Which do you suggest I invest in as this will be my everyday baby. Any suggestions? I’m not sure I’m going to do a full review on this one based on user feedback so far, check out the comments here: https://www.vapecritic.com/puffco-plus/. I read from straincentral’s tweet that you were able to find out the kandypens has glue. I would, however, trust a review from you! PS, great job on every review. I’ve never had a good experience with Kandypens but I can tell you they are quite different. So if you dont have a variable power pen you better go with each companies little pen. Looking for a combo vaporizer for both thick THC/CBD oil and dry. It works with all of my cartridges. You get 4-6 hits with it low @ 9-10 and 3-4 hits set @ 15. I paid 28 dollars for an evolve plus and went a year before both coils finally burned out. All of these coils are available for almost any vape. Although it is portable, it’s larger than a pen and not too discrete. I have all kinds of fancy expensive vaporizers and the one I go to first is my Pax three, for weed,.wax, it’s easy , simple, reliable , portable and it’s so easy it’s incredible. Hey Bud- tried using the discount code for the Kandy Pens Rubi, but nothing happened. I’m still tying to find the sweet spot for me on the Cloud EVO for concentrates. Now its going to cost me another 40bucks. I have had the aurora ghost and ninja and the apx by pulsar wins hands down.

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